Original Sin

I never used the word hoax - that is your word and not mine.  Everyone has the right to their own belief and I believe a word like hoax is at least impolite and at worst downright rude.  I hope you would not use this word to describe Mohamed when talking to a Muslim.  Otherwise you summed up my viewpoint fairly well.  

Sorry, but your “proofs” of prophecy strike me as completely self-fulfilling and a very weak level of proof.  As I've said in previous posts, I don’t understand the need of believers to prove anything.  The mere attempt to prove the unprovable alienates me even more.  I would also suggest that this "need to prove" from the conservative evangelical community is not shared by Christians at large.  In fact, I would argue it is likely a minority viewpoint.  I was raised in a Christian church, knew a bunch of great Christians and pastors (one in particular I admired greatly) and no one ever argued you could or had to prove anything.  But I think we’ve beat this topic around enough.

New topic – original sin and why it is another reason why I don’t believe.

1.     We are “born in sin” is just another way to demonize sex, sexuality and women’s sexuality in particular.  What is wrong with coming out the vaginal canal?  Nothing.  It is the result of millions of years of evolution - nothing more nothing less.

2.     It was Adam and especially Eve’s fault – really?  An omnipotent deity creates man and woman.  The deity gives them a sex drive.  The deity puts them in a beautiful garden – naked – and they have sex.  And that is a sin?  Seems like the omnipotent deity set them up to fail.  And yes, “biting the apple” is a euphemism for sex.  And why in the world does Eve get the blame for this?   It takes two to tango.  And one can't argue their sex was sinful since it was outside of marriage since marriage as an institution. didn't yet exist.

3.     What does make sense to me – you have to accept the concept of original sin in order for the very basis of Christianity to work.  Otherwise, what did Jesus die for?  Nothing.

4.     So the deity sends his "one and only son" (he could make an infinite number right?) to die for our sins - so we could feel guilty about that forever?  Sorry, can't bite.

Time to go back to work on my car.  And I will no doubt say some very un-Christian things to it.